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Interesting.... (UPDATED)

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So much hype about Jack McClellan... it's hard to keep up with it all, but thankfully- I have a short cut- I just run by girlchat and see what all the pedophiles are complaining about and whining over. Today, there was a new (okay, ALMOST new) player in the game... although he's been a figure in the last few months of the "Jack Saga".

It's like a bad soap opera that the network just won't cancel.

Via GirlChat:

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To: GC - From: Anthony Zinnanti
Posted by BB on Friday, August 31 2007 at 01:04:33pm
Tony Zinnanti sent the follow to the moderators address. While we are normally not a messenger service, I feel that he brings up points that deserve to be posted and refuted here.

Also, this will be the last such posting on his behalf. I have suggested that he register a nick and post here directly since he seems to have so much to say to our community. He's responded that he will register later today.

This e-mail is posted with his consent.

Hiya -

How come no one over there ever asked to see the pleadings and orders in the Jack McClellan case? There's a lot of talk and zero questioning as to what really went on. Do you folks believe everything you see in the media? Did you know that I was just fucking with you when I said on CNN that we "thoroughly infiltrated" your blogs and chat rooms. I looked at GC once before saying that.

Let that be a lesson. I was seeing if you would react.

The other irony is that I never even requested that Jack be kept away from kids. It was mentioned in passing, but my proposed order stated that he should be restrained from going to events where the purpose of attendance was surreptitiously taking photos of minors and publishing such photos under the guise of pedophilia. Basically, it was a false light (defamation) and public disclosure of private facts (invasion of privacy) argument.

Also, I have to tell you that I'm disappointed. I corresponded with Lindsay Ashford. Further, I read a thread now and then (just to see if anyone's out to rape the kid - which was stated on another board). She understands the media game. So, she's not bugged by the personal slights, etc. It's the bug on the windshield.

Where the serious dialogue about pedophilia and trans-generational sexual contact? Here, for example, is an interesting and benchmark paper on the issue: http://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/Library/nelson.htm . There is a swath of social and cultural practices well outside of the very artifically imposed age of consent laws that are practiced throughout the world. Why does the board devolve into bitchy snipes rather than some serious conversation? And, this is the so called open minded crowd.

All I get are "statistically" this or "statistically" that.

[edit - paragraph removed]

What a fucken hoot. I caught so much shit from the soccer moms when I went to bat for Jack after the Steve Wilkos taping. They lynch a mentally ill guy on stage. What a horrible fucken thing to do with a human being. But, Jack doesn't help himself. He keeps blabbing to the media and finally implicates himself in this murder case. While a lot of his behavior can be explained by virtue of his mental illness, he is an enigma. He has moments of brilliance. He is tenacious. He is engaging and brutally honest and I think he found some form of society in this crowd. On the other hand, it appears that a lot of people here could give a fuck about Jack McClellan as he is the dance boy for the crowd.

Most people - here and in the general public - have no idea of what happened over the last month. It's very ironic that the very crowd that is so critical of mainstream media is so readily accepting of it as the gospel truth.

Start asking questions and stop giving speeches. Those with little more than bitchy snipes are . . . the bug on the windshield. You’re a snotty mess, but you'll never impact the landscape.

The GL crowd had a golden opportunity to present its point of view. People were listening. What happens? You attack a kid. What a cluster fuck.

Many of our laws are ridiculous. For example, in terms of art - what gets put into a photograph is illegal; but if it a rendition in paint, charcoal, pen, etc. it's okay. So, the media of expression protects the child? What kind of crap is that? Further, who is to judge what is art and whose art is worthwhile? No one. Accordingly, the benchmark for legality should be set at the place of harm to the child.

Further, many age of consent laws are a disaster waiting to happen (many of which have unfortunately occurred). While the age of consent is probably low for most to tolerate, the Canadian scheme of age of consent is more realistic than California's draconian age of 18 years. Ironically, in California, in a divorce case, a child can express their preference for which parent to live with if they are "of such age and maturity" to do so. "Such age and maturity" can be four, six, nine or 17. It depends on the kid. Conversely, an 18 year old having sex with a 17 year old subjects that 18 year old to potential serious criminal consequences.

By not engaging in the dialogue, you are solidifying the very antiquated, stodgy, unrealistic and cold Victorian ethic you seek to combat. There are tremendous cultural and legal questions that need to be addressed in this arena. Pedophilia has been a theme in civilization since there was civilization. Don't you think it warrants lucid dialogue?

Well, carry on. If there was some serious discussion going on, I would join the party. But, we'll have to see.

The mainstay of my practice is criminal defense. Try and imagine the issues and personalities I deal with on a daily basis. Bianca has been there for much of it. So, a little taste of the real world hardly hurts.

Okay - bitchy snipes or something of substance? Ball is in your court . . .

Anthony D. Zinnanti, Esq.
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There you have it. Hopefully he will be on later today to respond to your criticisms (as I'm sure there are many). Note that I have removed only one paragraph from this e-mail and that's because it dove into personal aspects of Jack's life that he has not chosen to share publicly with this community.

-BB

I can't even start to respond to that.

So, moving on. Yesterday I was sicken to read a article by Judy McGuire of the Seattle Weekly. To be perfectly honest- someone should have found this woman MONTHS ago. She keeps a DateGirl column in the paper... although to be frank, I've only read two of her pieces, one yesterday and then another today.

from yesterday:

But about three years ago, I received a letter from a pedophile. This guy had written me many times before, mostly droning on about his hooker habit (he even had a Web site devoted to his hobby). His letters were super-creepy, and the intense, psychotic loathing he professed for the sex workers he regularly hired was so palpable, I wondered if he was a serial killer. But this particular letter was different. This time he told me he'd given up on banging pros and, instead, found himself increasingly drawn to little girls. Gulp.

He wrote, "I don't watch much adult TV anymore because I'm checking out the girls on Nick, Disney, etc. I don't consider myself a pedophile and believe that forcing my man-size penis into a girl-size vagina is an abusive and violent act. However, I see nothing wrong with loving, nurturing touch, like cuddling, kissing, massages, and stroking hair."

Yuck.

At the time, poor Judy didn't know who it was behind the signature "Uncircumcised"... other than someone who seemed to be annoyed that she failed to print previous letters he'd written her, and that he was clearly- sick. Now, years later- she is keenly aware of the fact that her letter writer was our "Pedophile Blogger" that's been in the news so very much.

Her piece yesterday mentioned that she finally did publish a letter from the anonymous writer... and I just couldn't help but try to find it.

Today, I did- I'll Be Taking a Bleach Shower Now, Thanks!.

Read the entire thing if you can take it, but here's a little preview of what he wrote:

I think I've always had this predilection but believe that my psychedelic drug use over the years has helped to liberate it from my subconscious.

Let's blame the drugs... it's always better to blame the drugs.

I'm afraid it might eventually progress beyond that—into Jacko-style sleepovers, showers, full-nude body contact, cunnilingus, etc.

So, even Jack has the same fears that the rest of us do- or at least at one time he did. Whether those fears have slipped away (I'm sure he'd blame drugs for that too) or they've become less of a fear, and more of a hope- we can't really tell. But, it does give us even more insight into the fact that Jack has long been sliding down a dangerous path... and at the end of it is an innocent child who will become his victim.

UPDATE:

On a "wow what a odd turn of events" update, I thought I would tell ya'll that Anthony Zinnanti has started posting at GirlChat. At this point, it seems his posts (not emails posted on there, but actual log in a post type stuff) is mostly focused on kissing ass. Here' a few of the finer comments he has made:

I completely agree that there is no harm from a pedophile admiring a child in a public venue. But, that's hardly what the case was/is about. The primary requested order of restraint was to restrain Jack from attending venues where the primary activity is children's services or entertainment where the attendance was for the purpose of surreptitiously taking photos of minors and publishing them under the guise of pedophilia. ENTIRE POST

Here's the unseen point - a lot of people were seriously angry with the authorities. This presented a dangerous situation. People here were talking about killing Jack. The issue with the authorities arises from an "us versus them" approach. The people here in Santa Clarita were very frustrated and the place - being the breeding factory that it is - has a jillion kids running around. So, when Jack stated that he would come back here, it created a real mob mentality.
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I didn't harbor any ill feelings toward Jack until the UCLA incident. Even then, it was more of a nuisance than any kind of anger. However, when the possible - and I stress "possible" - connection to Adre'anna Jackson's murder was made, I went through the roof. It didn't look good for Jack because of all the things that were being said - by him. Post Here.

And:

I think this subject is tremendously important. To bury it would be wrong. I know that a lot of people that supported me through the Jack case will now reverse their position. Frankly, I really don't care. I'm not running for office, nor do I ever intend to.

This issue exists on a great spectrum of beliefs and cultural practices. It's unfortunate that even the prospect of dialogue give rise to a witch hunt. Here

His chosen nickname? media-gagged.

Protesting IBLD - December 22nd, 2007

Twice a year, the pedofreaks over at BoyChat celebrate International Boylove Day (IBLD), a day on which they light blue candles in celebration of child sexual abuse.

Meet Allan Doerner, a 75 year old Karaoke singer from West Palm Beach, Florida. What I don't think Allan's audiences realize when he goes on stage to sing to Ricky Martins "Livin La Vida Loca" (translates to "living the crazy life") is that Allan is also living a secret life of pedophilia and child abuse.

Throughout his life Allan has made an effort to be around boys, at one point he was the coach on a Little League baseball team, later on he hung around with street kids, kids which were already having enough trouble with their lives, Allans says:

"I was involved with street unwanted boys, mostly Puertorican... and these boys were another story..! I didn't have to say anything... or lie... They just knew..! To them, if a middleaged single white man (I was recently divorced) showed as much interest as I did in the welfare of an 11 or 13 year-old hispanic boy... there was more to it than just a fatherly concern for their welfare..! That's what they believed....

....and that's what they accepted..!"

And in one post on BoyChat, Allan confesses to having groomed and sexually abused children in the past:

I know I molested... never with force...mostly by seduction... with kindness, caring, gifts, etc.....but I refuse to think otherwise..! To repeat, the fact that someone enjoys being molested doesn't change the fact... ..(..now, all of you can jump all over me..)

...We all know what the law says about consensual sexual acts between adults and minors... and we all know that what the law doesn't find out, the law can't act on...

Dressed eccentrically, Allan preforms before an unsuspecting audience, a pedophile who posts on BoyChat and who has also has a history of sexually abusing children; Child Molesters like Allan are the reason why we here at Absolute Zero make an effort to protest International Boylove Day.

To protest IBLD show your support for children's innocence by burning a white candle and/or by placing this banner on your website/blog.



This Saturday, December 22nd, 2007 - Stand up against International Boylove Day!




Click here to watch our International Boylove Day video from June 23, 2007.

Kamikaze Jan

Jan Kruska says

"hate doesn’t solve anything, neither does revenge. Hate and vengeance is for the simple minded and it is a cop out. It is taking the easy way out. It is also the fast track to the inevitable next future disaster"

So what's so wrong about that statement? Jan only applies it to people who have sexually offended against others. That's what.
Jan believes:

"While sexual abuse is despicable there are indeed things that are much worse in life"

"those on the sex offender registry have suffered great losses.......the right to live where you want and feel safe in your person and in your home"

"The scarlett [sic] letter is real and is about to be placed squarely on the foreheads of those responsible for this American travesty that is the sex offender registry"

Jan also believes that children don't report when they are abused for fear that their abuser will be removed from the home.

It reminded me so much of someone else. The wacked out mother who showed up on GirlChat recently explaining that her boyfriend got together with her because he was a pedophile and wanted her daughter. He had done it to another woman and her daughter before her. And now after molesting the 10 year old, Frianne is trying to figure out how to hold on to him when he gets out of jail. OMG They all seem to be the same! Look at this grandma, she's upset that her son is in jail. she admits that he did it but says "it was a psychological error on his part" She goes on to say that

"I know he is sorry and will never do it again....He should not have to pay so dearly, he did'nt kill ...and it was the result of the two girls(his) constantly sexually active since 11, and flaunting it in his face, when his wife did'nt like sex, he was in need"

She just fit right into that den at SOSEN didn't she? Even Shirley Lowery agrees as a matter of fact

"I grew up in an abusive home and I kept my mouth shut. Now that I am older and wiser I know without a doubt that I did the right thing then and would do the same again. Virtue has little meaning to a child who likes a roof over their head and food to put in their belly"

But then what can you expect, as she also said:

Poor Pathetic Ignorant Americans

John Walsh has single-handedly destroyed more US children than any other individual in history

Americans can be incredibly stupid.

The Miami police department has set the stage. No action was required but their reaction equaled that of a national crisis. The public has a right to know

John Walsh is not the only person to lose a child under tragic circumstances. He has been in a rage for a quarter of a century. Now we are being asked to pick up an astronomical tab to immortalize his son. I wouldn't give a dime. I learned what manure is a long time ago so I walk around it rather than stepping in it.

Each of us has the capability of being an abuser and many thousands of you are active abusers. How dare you sit back and point your finger and judge yourself as being a better person. You aren’t.

Home of the brave? No, a nation of whimps whose answer to everything is placing the blame elsewhere.

All that talk about blaming and finger pointing led me back a ways. I thought about Jan's religious intolerance. And I thought about her dishonesty and her belief that parents of murdered children are the ones who should be blamed rather than the person who commits the act.

"The common thread with all of these cases is that the parents were living less than, shall we say, good moral lifestyles....."

Sex offenders aren’t born sex offenders. They are created. They are a bi-product of society and the sooner we ALL start taking responsibility the better chance we all have of protecting our kids and having, NO MORE VICTIMS

I believe that these people, the Shirley Lowery’s and Jan Kruska’s and Tom Madison’s don’t know what responsibility is. Tom as CEO of SoClear believes that randomly attacking uninvolved people and knowingly libeling them, accusing them of things which they did not do, is appropriate behavior. He even goes so far as to demean the serious topic of child sexual abuse by calling Jan’s actions a mere game of "sticks ‘n stones”.

The mainstream perception that these people are indifferent and insensitive to the very real abuse that children have suffered is born out by their own actions, and I believe there could hardly be a more blatant example of their remarkable unwillingness to take responsibility for their own conduct. We have dubbed this ‘blame gaming’ but a more proper term would be sociopathic.

And yet, we aren't the only ones bickering with these guys. We aren't the only ones who think these people are wack jobs. Take the case of Erika


p3rl_script wrote to David Coffman, owner of SOSEN about her concerns regarding CEO Shirley Lowery.

"I have decided to withdraw my membership from SOSEN as a result of Shirley's destructive messages and psychotic leadership skills.

She is hurting people and she will drag you and others down with her if allowed to continue, she is severely unstable mentally and has no understanding just how damaging her behavior is when she is allowed to continue inciting nonsense with no consequences for her asinine actions."

And to Shirley herself she says:

"Your one step away from having the FBI on your tail, with the type of content your allowing to be posted and the type of things you write about.

I cannot and will not be associated with the "Illegal" and "unlawful" type of activity your advocating for by encouraging and promoting it on your Yahoo Group SOSEN.

It is extremely stupid and you are placing any one in connection with you and SOSEN in danger of being arrested for whatever the government can get you for in regards to inciting people and encouraging illegal activity in violation of both state and federal laws.

The kind of behavior you are promoting and allowing to occur is EXTREMELY dangerous and self-defeating and I shall take NO part in it.

You have no idea (seemingly) of the harm and damage your doing to the very people you think you are helping! Your like a predator who preys on peoples fears causing them to react.

FOR THE RECORD I AM NO LONGER A MEMBER SOSEN YAHOO GROUPS! AND I DO NOT ENGAGE IN ILLEGAL ACTIVITY"

Erika promptly formed the Families in Social Crisis Legal Defense group.

But she also formed a yahoo group called jessicamarielunsfordfoundation


Using this name she wrote propaganda







and wild rants to newspaper articles

She told us about her past

And linked us to her MySpace

And her profession

And her hobbies

Her needs

The Results

Her associations

All of us here at AZ and in the entire Anti community each have our own reasons for being here. Some of us were sexually abused as children or know someone who was. Some of us came to this due to attacks by online pedophile terrorists. But the common thread that binds us is the obligation we feel.

When someone like a Margie Slagle, an Ohio Attorney and board member of SoClear, mocks child sexual abuse via harassing emails, or when a Jan Kruska mocks a child sexual abuse survivor, some of us just shake our heads in disbelief as we watch her downward spiral. Others say "this will never do"

Meet Kamikaze Jan

HT Jacey

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The Antis Protest International Boylove Day

Now to for some fun, kick back and enjoy another successful hijacking of a pro-pedophilia holiday.

A big HT to all Antis for putting in the time to fight these creeps!

And just to help spread the word... http://ibld.blogspot.com/